In a bull market, is it to attract retail investors or to kill them all?

Yesterday I saw two people arguing. One said: "Without retail investors, where would the bull market come from?" The other retorted: "If retail investors are not killed all, where would the bull market come from?"

To be honest, I am more inclined to the latter's point of view. After experiencing three rounds of bull-bear transitions, I found a rule: basically the starting point of the bull market is when retail investors are liquidated and leave the market. The word "be" is used here because only retail investors can truly experience the despair. The pain of cutting meat in the end is undoubtedly heartbreaking.

However, the market will always attract retail investors to enter the market again in the bull market, but it is definitely not at the bottom area. When the price of pie returns to 77,000, 80,000 or even 100,000 one day, there will naturally be a lot of people shouting "the bull market is coming" and then entering the market to take over.

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