The turning point of Trump reversing Harris's election was an interview.

On October 25, 2024, a key moment, Trump was interviewed by the internet celebrity podcaster Logan, who has 45 million fans.

The content was not important.

What mattered was that during the three-hour interview, which was live-streamed the whole time, Trump spoke confidently and didn't even go to the bathroom once.

Logan said that although this guy is 78 years old, he didn't urinate before the show and didn't urinate after the show; his energy is insane, and I want to vote for him.

Then it reversed.

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