In the blockchain industry, frictions between different projects occur from time to time due to various factors such as technology and community.
On November 27, Movement co-founder Rushi Manche opened fire on former Scroll employee Toghrul Maharramov on X (Toghrul had directly called users "e-baggor" in some posts, and even developed into a Scroll community MEME.) and pointed out that "almost no one wants to be recognized as EVM L2 because of the work you have done." This war of words caused by technical discussions also triggered the community's attention to the two ecologies. This article sorts out the whole story of the incident, trying to make readers understand the whole story.
Technical term "right of definition"
It all started with a discussion on “post-confirmation” on November 26. In the blockchain network, postconfirmation means that after a new block is created, the validator quickly confirms the correctness of the block. This process occurs during the confirmation phase of the blockchain and is intended to speed up transaction confirmation and provide a certain level of security. Movement, as a modular Move architecture, builds a "post-confirmation" mechanism that first obtains L2 instant confirmation through the economic guarantee of L2 MOVE token pledge, and then performs post-certification status updates on L1. The network of validators validates new blocks, submits signed proofs, and confirms or rejects new blocks for the staking contract on L1.
Toghrul had questions about the "post-confirmation" of Movement transactions and communicated with Movement researchers Andreas and Franck. The dispute between the two parties is whether "post-confirmation" itself is another form of pre-confirmation. Toghrul insists that this mechanism is only part of the overall confirmation process, and he questions that "post-confirmation" does not actually minimize trust across chains. It is essentially equivalent to the Polygon side chain and cannot be called an L2. And Monad’s DevRel ZenLlama also favors a pre-confirmed view. Before the final outbreak, these exchanges were still limited to the definition of technical terms.
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The flames of war ignite
In another tweet, Rushi also criticized that "only protocols aligned with Ethereum proposed by Uniswap or Flashbot can gain attention now", and he said that thousands of terms have been created for the "useless" Ethereum L2. It just so happened that Toghrul had just ended his debate with Movement researchers, so he naturally opened fire on Rushi. Toghrul pointed out that Movement had directly forked from Aptos, and used some of the infrastructure he called "useless L2". In the end, Leave a message: "Please put down your arrogance."
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Perhaps it was the arrogance of that last line that irritated Rushi, who later responded with a long tweet, “I have nothing but respect for some of the members of your team, but Scroll and you are probably one of the worst projects in the industry, so much so that at least 6 of your "Colleagues (half of whom are no longer on the team) came to me to apologize for your behavior." He criticized his former employer Scroll, and exposed "predatory" airdrop distribution and the team's dumping behavior (secondary market share). and team behaviors such as high valuation takeovers within the team) and airdrops, and left a message: "Technical debate is one thing, I am sure we can improve. If you want to jump ship with Franck, then come. Otherwise improve you own damn chain so it's not a blatant scam."
On November 27, when the MoveDrop airdrop opened for registration, criticism of Scroll received support from more community users, and the debate caused by technical discussions was also transformed into part of the project marketing.
Interestingly, Rushi also said that a quarter of the Scroll team had applied for positions at Movement in the past 2 months. Toghrul also responded quickly and stated that he had quit the Scroll team. But when he responded, he still had not removed the Scroll badge on his X. Rushi also commented: "Even he is ashamed of Scroll."
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community reaction
After the launch of Rushi, Toghrul also officially stated that he had quit the Scroll team. Some users jokingly said "Thank you for your "post-confirmation"". Some users are also asking Toghrul whether he will join Solana. Solana founder Toly also said "We've been reckless enough"
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In this incident, a large number of community users condemned Toghrul and even the Scroll team. He also responded to some users, "If you reply to my post, you will definitely get a bigger MOVE airdrop, right?"
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This war of words started with a technical discussion, and behind it also emerged the conflict between the new public chains built using new architectures such as Move and the traditional EVM L2 ecosystem.
For Movement, Rushi’s posts have broad community support, while Scroll is known for its ZK technology. Toghrul later lamented that “I still haven’t heard the final answer on whether Movement is a side chain or L2.” Just as Toly commented: “As long as there are multiple signatures on the cross-chain bridge, it can be L2.”
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Original author: Pzai, Foresight News
"Eat melon online!" Movement founders are at loggerheads with former Scroll employees. What are they arguing about? 』This article was first published in "CryptoCity"
