Written by: Pzai, Foresight News
In the blockchain field, due to various factors such as technology and community, friction between different projects often occurs.
On November 27, Movement co-founder Rushi Manche fired at Scroll employee Toghrul Maharramov on X (Toghrul had directly referred to users as 'e-baggors' in some tweets, which even became a MEME in the Scroll community.). He pointed out that "almost no one is willing to be recognized as EVM L2 for the work you do," and this feud sparked by technical discussions also drew attention from the community to both ecosystems. This article reviews the events leading up to this incident, aiming to help readers understand the context.
Technical term 'definition authority'
The whole reason started with a discussion about 'post-confirmation' on November 26. In blockchain networks, post-confirmation refers to the rapid confirmation of the correctness of a new block by validators after it has been created. This process occurs during the confirmation stage of the blockchain, aiming to accelerate transaction confirmation speed and provide a certain level of security. As a modular Move framework, Movement's 'post-confirmation' mechanism is initially secured through staking L2 MOVE tokens to achieve immediate L2 confirmation, followed by state updates on L1 after proof. The validator network validates the new block, submits signed proofs, and confirms or rejects the new block of the staking contract on L1.
Toghrul expressed doubts about Movement's 'post-confirmation' and communicated with Movement researchers Andreas and Franck. The point of contention between the two sides is whether 'post-confirmation' is merely another form of pre-confirmation. Toghrul insisted that this mechanism is just part of the overall confirmation process and questioned that 'post-confirmation' does not actually minimize trust bridging, essentially equating it with Polygon's sidechain, and cannot be called an L2. Monad's DevRel ZenLlama also leaned towards the pre-confirmation view. Before the situation escalated, these discussions were still focused on defining technical terms.
The flames of war ignited
In another tweet, Rushi also criticized, "Now only protocols aligned with Ethereum proposed by Uniswap or Flashbot can gain attention," and stated that he created thousands of terms for 'useless' Ethereum L2. Just as Toghrul had just finished arguing with Movement researchers, it was natural for him to fire back at Rushi, pointing out that Movement forked directly from Aptos and utilized some of what he called 'useless L2' infrastructure, ultimately leaving a remark: "Please put down your arrogance."
Perhaps the last arrogant comment angered Rushi, who subsequently replied with a long tweet, "I have only respect for some members of your team, but Scroll and you might be one of the worst projects in this field, to the extent that at least 6 of your colleagues (half of whom are no longer on the team) have come to me to apologize for your behavior," harshly criticizing his former employer Scroll and exposing issues such as 'predatory' airdrop distribution, the team's dumping behavior (secondary market shares and internal overvaluation buyouts), and airdrop front-running, adding, "Technical debate is one thing; I am sure we can improve. If you want to jump ship with Franck, then go ahead. Otherwise, improve your damn chain so it’s not an outright scam."
On November 27, at the node where the MoveDrop airdrop registration opened, criticism of Scroll received more support from community users, and this debate sparked by technical discussions also transformed into part of project marketing.
Interestingly, Rushi also stated that a quarter of the Scroll team had applied for Movement positions in the past two months. Toghrul quickly responded, stating that he had already left the Scroll team. However, at the time of the reply, he had not yet removed his Scroll badge on X, to which Rushi commented: "Even he feels ashamed of Scroll."
Community response
After Rushi's attack, Toghrul officially stated that he had left the Scroll team. Some users humorously commented, "Thank you for your 'post-confirmation'," while others inquired if Toghrul would join Solana, with Solana founder Toly also stating, "We have been reckless enough."
In this incident, a large number of community users condemned Toghrul and even the Scroll team. He retaliated against some users, saying, "If you reply to my tweet, you will definitely get a bigger MOVE airdrop, right?"
This feud began with a technical discussion, revealing the underlying conflict between new public chains built on new architectures like Move and traditional EVM L2 ecosystems.
For Movement, there is broad community support under Rushi's tweet, while Scroll excels in ZK technology. Toghrul later expressed, "I still haven't heard the final answer on whether Movement is a sidechain or L2," just as Toly commented: "As long as the cross-chain bridge has multi-signature, it can be L2."
